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	<title>Comments on: Left-Brain vs Right-Brain or &#8220;Why are designers not good at business?&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Julian Stone</title>
		<link>http://blog.kashflow.com/2009/02/18/left-righ/comment-page-1/#comment-7635</link>
		<dc:creator>Julian Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 23:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that it&#039;s a bit of an unfair generalization to say designers are not good at business. About 30-40% of our userbase are designers in small-med (and some large) businesses and many are doing great. Many of the creative business CEO&#039;s are also designers and art directors.

I just don&#039;t think the two (design and business) are linked. They&#039;re separate talents but you can have either or both.

I&#039;m the CEO of www.proworkflow.com, a web based project management solution. My background is 15+ years as a designer, art director and creative yet I&#039;ve made a success of the business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that it&#8217;s a bit of an unfair generalization to say designers are not good at business. About 30-40% of our userbase are designers in small-med (and some large) businesses and many are doing great. Many of the creative business CEO&#8217;s are also designers and art directors.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t think the two (design and business) are linked. They&#8217;re separate talents but you can have either or both.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m the CEO of <a href="http://www.proworkflow.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.proworkflow.com</a>, a web based project management solution. My background is 15+ years as a designer, art director and creative yet I&#8217;ve made a success of the business.</p>
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		<title>By: Cat</title>
		<link>http://blog.kashflow.com/2009/02/18/left-righ/comment-page-1/#comment-7005</link>
		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 02:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see her spinning both ways - it helps to blink hard to get her to change direction.  As a creative who has had my own business for over 25 years, I do think creatives are lousy business people, mostly because they aren&#039;t taking business courses in school, they&#039;re either in art class or learning on the job somewhere.  Creativity is like a river - it needs a strong channel to focus it, and when left to its own devices it tends to meander this way and that.  I was in the film biz for 20 years, and the best people were excellent within the structure - but take them out of the structure and the often were unable to meet deadlines or budgets.  A good producer (who is usually left and right brain balanced) keeps the job moving forward and the creatives on task.  

Also, my brain has a very hard time with numbers - I have had a bookkeeper for years to help me keep track of everything correctly, because when the  numbers don&#039;t make sense my brain shuts down and I feel overwhelmed.  But tell me we need a visual presentation by the weekend, and I&#039;m your gal!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see her spinning both ways &#8211; it helps to blink hard to get her to change direction.  As a creative who has had my own business for over 25 years, I do think creatives are lousy business people, mostly because they aren&#8217;t taking business courses in school, they&#8217;re either in art class or learning on the job somewhere.  Creativity is like a river &#8211; it needs a strong channel to focus it, and when left to its own devices it tends to meander this way and that.  I was in the film biz for 20 years, and the best people were excellent within the structure &#8211; but take them out of the structure and the often were unable to meet deadlines or budgets.  A good producer (who is usually left and right brain balanced) keeps the job moving forward and the creatives on task.  </p>
<p>Also, my brain has a very hard time with numbers &#8211; I have had a bookkeeper for years to help me keep track of everything correctly, because when the  numbers don&#8217;t make sense my brain shuts down and I feel overwhelmed.  But tell me we need a visual presentation by the weekend, and I&#8217;m your gal!!</p>
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		<title>By: MiniS</title>
		<link>http://blog.kashflow.com/2009/02/18/left-righ/comment-page-1/#comment-6925</link>
		<dc:creator>MiniS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree 100% with Duane. I had a designer &amp; developer work together on a project.  They&#039;re both self-employed. The designer did a great design, the developer built a great cms system. The main problems were the same Duane experienced with his guys. They disappeared, didn&#039;t answer emails for 2+ weeks, always under-estimated the time it would take to complete a project, never started on time and the list goes on. So I decided to get someone else to do more work. He was brilliant in the beginning with the whole project-management thing, coming up with ideas etc. He started work, almost completed it and then disappeared. Now what?? I&#039;m still waiting for this guy to tell me what&#039;s going on. We&#039;re now 3 weeks over his deadline (that he set and I gave extra 2 weeks in case) and he just said he&#039;s busy I must wait! WTF??  

I say all developers (especially self-employed ones) should get someone to manage them and their clients.  Most of them just sucks at business and keeping clients happy.

BTW, she&#039;s spinning clockwise even if I look at her toes:-)  Really thought I was left-brained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 100% with Duane. I had a designer &amp; developer work together on a project.  They&#8217;re both self-employed. The designer did a great design, the developer built a great cms system. The main problems were the same Duane experienced with his guys. They disappeared, didn&#8217;t answer emails for 2+ weeks, always under-estimated the time it would take to complete a project, never started on time and the list goes on. So I decided to get someone else to do more work. He was brilliant in the beginning with the whole project-management thing, coming up with ideas etc. He started work, almost completed it and then disappeared. Now what?? I&#8217;m still waiting for this guy to tell me what&#8217;s going on. We&#8217;re now 3 weeks over his deadline (that he set and I gave extra 2 weeks in case) and he just said he&#8217;s busy I must wait! WTF??  </p>
<p>I say all developers (especially self-employed ones) should get someone to manage them and their clients.  Most of them just sucks at business and keeping clients happy.</p>
<p>BTW, she&#8217;s spinning clockwise even if I look at her toes:-)  Really thought I was left-brained.</p>
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		<title>By: Deepti</title>
		<link>http://blog.kashflow.com/2009/02/18/left-righ/comment-page-1/#comment-6630</link>
		<dc:creator>Deepti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 22:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see her spinning both ways too</description>
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		<title>By: Phil Eastabrook</title>
		<link>http://blog.kashflow.com/2009/02/18/left-righ/comment-page-1/#comment-6621</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Eastabrook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 11:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a designer but as film maker working mostly in the corporate environment, I like to give as good a service as humanly possible. Sometimes clients don&#039;t realise just how much work has been put in on the job, and &quot;Company 2&quot; seem to have created some kind of design perpetual motion machine if they could deliver unlimited changes for a fixed budget. No wonder they disappeared for periods of time - they were probably off to Las Vegas to pull a heist to pay for all the time they were working for you for nothing!

Anti-clockwise. No Hang on, Clockwise. No, its Anti-clockwise.
Can&#039;t consciously flip her though. My Daughter saw both ways too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a designer but as film maker working mostly in the corporate environment, I like to give as good a service as humanly possible. Sometimes clients don&#8217;t realise just how much work has been put in on the job, and &#8220;Company 2&#8243; seem to have created some kind of design perpetual motion machine if they could deliver unlimited changes for a fixed budget. No wonder they disappeared for periods of time &#8211; they were probably off to Las Vegas to pull a heist to pay for all the time they were working for you for nothing!</p>
<p>Anti-clockwise. No Hang on, Clockwise. No, its Anti-clockwise.<br />
Can&#8217;t consciously flip her though. My Daughter saw both ways too.</p>
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		<title>By: Gargoyle</title>
		<link>http://blog.kashflow.com/2009/02/18/left-righ/comment-page-1/#comment-6606</link>
		<dc:creator>Gargoyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a recent post on the KashFlow blog, Duane had a short rant at some of the pitfalls involved in trying to find a good designer. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a recent post on the KashFlow blog, Duane had a short rant at some of the pitfalls involved in trying to find a good designer. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://blog.kashflow.com/2009/02/18/left-righ/comment-page-1/#comment-6605</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it bad to say I can see her nipples? Is she spinning?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it bad to say I can see her nipples? Is she spinning?</p>
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		<title>By: GaryMcC</title>
		<link>http://blog.kashflow.com/2009/02/18/left-righ/comment-page-1/#comment-6581</link>
		<dc:creator>GaryMcC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeeehaw!  I&#039;ve seen her swing erm spin both ways!

Very bizarre.

Anyway, what were we talking about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeeehaw!  I&#8217;ve seen her swing erm spin both ways!</p>
<p>Very bizarre.</p>
<p>Anyway, what were we talking about?</p>
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		<title>By: elysa</title>
		<link>http://blog.kashflow.com/2009/02/18/left-righ/comment-page-1/#comment-6579</link>
		<dc:creator>elysa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>either I&#039;m going crazy &amp; my eyes are playing tricks on me or this is a test of how much do you pay attention to detail. I sat and watched that illustration for a bit and it actually stops and changes directions.

I would however consider myself balanced left &amp; right. I am a designer and I know my strengths and weakness and I could lean towards #1 - I&#039;m a big picture thinker so sometimes I get wrapped up in a project and put more into that I&#039;d originally planned. But I have a project manager that handles quotes and those types of details. I think it&#039;s important for people to know where their skillset is and let everyone do what they are good at. 

Overall I think the term &quot;designer&quot; is waaaaayyy too broad to try to generalize. A 15 year old with a stolen copy of photoshop may call himself a designer online yet he has no experience. Unfortunately there aren&#039;t requirements to be able to use the term designer. I&#039;d suggest as a client find designers through recommendations from your trusted business associates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>either I&#8217;m going crazy &amp; my eyes are playing tricks on me or this is a test of how much do you pay attention to detail. I sat and watched that illustration for a bit and it actually stops and changes directions.</p>
<p>I would however consider myself balanced left &amp; right. I am a designer and I know my strengths and weakness and I could lean towards #1 &#8211; I&#8217;m a big picture thinker so sometimes I get wrapped up in a project and put more into that I&#8217;d originally planned. But I have a project manager that handles quotes and those types of details. I think it&#8217;s important for people to know where their skillset is and let everyone do what they are good at. </p>
<p>Overall I think the term &#8220;designer&#8221; is waaaaayyy too broad to try to generalize. A 15 year old with a stolen copy of photoshop may call himself a designer online yet he has no experience. Unfortunately there aren&#8217;t requirements to be able to use the term designer. I&#8217;d suggest as a client find designers through recommendations from your trusted business associates.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Vlahakis</title>
		<link>http://blog.kashflow.com/2009/02/18/left-righ/comment-page-1/#comment-6577</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda Vlahakis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can only see her going clockwise and no amount of straining will see it any other way - I&#039;m yes a creative.

I think the implication that creative people are less likely to be business-minded is an absurd one plucked of thin air with very little evidence or substance behind it.

I&#039;ve been referred to many times in my life as a &#039;robot&#039; or &#039;borg&#039; because of my unnatural levels of organisational skills and efficiency. I&#039;m extremely business minded.

The natural creativity I possess doesn&#039;t prevent this. Anyone can learn to be organised and efficient (and care about good service), it&#039;s nothing to do with which side of your brain you use the most.

The reason why there are so many bad designers out there isn&#039;t because they are &#039;creative&#039;, it&#039;s because it costs next to nothing to set up a design service/business - startup costs are very very low.

Hence the industry is littered with loads of people who are just &#039;having a go&#039; - who have poor design skills half the time and even worse customer service.

That&#039;s not because they are creative, it&#039;s because they aren&#039;t serious about their &#039;business&#039;.

Amanda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can only see her going clockwise and no amount of straining will see it any other way &#8211; I&#8217;m yes a creative.</p>
<p>I think the implication that creative people are less likely to be business-minded is an absurd one plucked of thin air with very little evidence or substance behind it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been referred to many times in my life as a &#8216;robot&#8217; or &#8216;borg&#8217; because of my unnatural levels of organisational skills and efficiency. I&#8217;m extremely business minded.</p>
<p>The natural creativity I possess doesn&#8217;t prevent this. Anyone can learn to be organised and efficient (and care about good service), it&#8217;s nothing to do with which side of your brain you use the most.</p>
<p>The reason why there are so many bad designers out there isn&#8217;t because they are &#8216;creative&#8217;, it&#8217;s because it costs next to nothing to set up a design service/business &#8211; startup costs are very very low.</p>
<p>Hence the industry is littered with loads of people who are just &#8216;having a go&#8217; &#8211; who have poor design skills half the time and even worse customer service.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not because they are creative, it&#8217;s because they aren&#8217;t serious about their &#8216;business&#8217;.</p>
<p>Amanda</p>
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